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  Righteousness According To Watchtower

  by Sea Breeze in

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  take a look at this heresy:"righteousness is the state of being right with god by complying with his standards of good and bad.

  "- the watchtower—study edition | july 15, 2001 | blessings are for the righteous onewow!

  my bible says in several places that "there is no one righteous, no not one".

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  Sea Breeze

  Road to Nowhere:
  

  Complying with Gods standards is not bad; but they really mean .org standards.

  I agree. The WT standards go far beyond the OT standards. If the OT standards were burdensome, the WT standards are like a millstone around your neck. The NT makes it clear that Christians are set free from the consequences of failure to meet the Standards of God.
  
  It's like the only thing God is asking is to not go out of your way to sin and get busy serving others one way or another. In other words, show a little respect for the freedom that was won for you on the cross. Other than that, the whole sin thing has already been dealt with and is a thing of the past.

  
  For you were called to freedom, brothers and sisters; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but serve one another through love.
  
  "he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him".
  
  
  Imagine hearing something like this at the KH.... Heads would explode!
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  Righteousness According To Watchtower

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  take a look at this heresy:"righteousness is the state of being right with god by complying with his standards of good and bad.

  "- the watchtower—study edition | july 15, 2001 | blessings are for the righteous onewow!

  my bible says in several places that "there is no one righteous, no not one".

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  Sea Breeze

  Take a look at this heresy:
  
  "Righteousness is the state of being right with God by complying with his standards of good and bad."
  
  - The Watchtower—Study Edition | July 15, 2001 | Blessings Are For The Righteous One
  
  Wow! My bible says in several places that "there is no one righteous, no not one". In the NT, Paul goes to great lengths to explain how righteousness is imputed BY FAITH.
  
  "Abraham BELIEVED GOD and it was credited to him as righteousness."
  
  The entire chapter of Hebrews 11 is about the FAITH of OT believers.... not their obedience. Many of them were very disobedient at times. This is very good news, because while I can't always be obedient, I can always believe! Praise God a righteous standing is not based on performance.
  
  "by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified"
  
  WT further makes this amazing statement:
  
  "The one who is pure and righteous at heart gives ample evidence of his righteousness. His speech is kind and upbuilding, his actions positive and generous....How this differs from the name of the wicked ones, which becomes something sickening and putrid"!
  
  Wow!! The very names of people who are not JW's are PUTRID according to the WT.
  
  What happened to the "kind" and "upbuilding" "speech" that they were just talking about? Calling people's names "PUTRID" is not kind, is it?
  
  If you walked up to a person and said, "unless you become a JW" your very name will be putrid to me.
  
  Would that be kind? Of course not. After you get slapped in the face you would know for sure, just in case there was any doubt.
  
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  Did You Miss Playing Sports?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how many of you missed playing sports in school?

  the wt was merely trying to keep us from committing suicide.... how loving.take a look at this fear mongering :problems with sports today - g91 8/22 p. 5. .

  "people used to argue that sports were of value because they built character.... such arguments sound hollow, even hypocritical.. .

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  I also eat healthy, hike, cycle, travel, etc. I've climbed to Machu Picchu in Peru, as well as Pike's Peak in Colorado.

  Good for you! Every day that we take care of our health , enjoy nature, act grateful for what we have, value others, and KEEP GROWING we humiliate the Watchtower and their ideology of fear and slavery.
  
  Our lives have meaning and value apart from the WT. Especially apart from the WT. If a former JW happens to be a believer, then there is even another slap in their face since they utterly hate Christians and always have.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  Sea Breeze

  Please go check yourself into a rehab and let us know when you get to step 9:
  
  

  Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others

  
  
  
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  Did You Miss Playing Sports?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how many of you missed playing sports in school?

  the wt was merely trying to keep us from committing suicide.... how loving.take a look at this fear mongering :problems with sports today - g91 8/22 p. 5. .

  "people used to argue that sports were of value because they built character.... such arguments sound hollow, even hypocritical.. .

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  WC,
  
  You make VERY good points. What kinds of things are you doing now to compensate (fight back)?
  
  
  
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  Sociopaths - What's Your Story? 

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first - some facts about sociopaths.

  1 out of 100 people are sociopathic and they are rational people.

  they are not deluded.. 2. they display a lack of conscience, an inability to feel remorse, and above average intelligence .

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  I'm probably a sociopath

  Oh, I seriously doubt that. Real sociopaths don't feel guilt or remorse. They certainly would not say what you just said. But, isolation is not healthy. Pets help... giving to others.... some self disclosure (like you just did here) are all very healthy. But they require a little work and some maintenance... Well worth the effort.
  
  
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  The "WE'RE ALL IMPERFECT" Theory.

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a recurring theme in this loyd deal is the we're all imperfect-----------excuse!.

  the "we're all imperfect" phrase, is an over used watchtower membership cliche, embedded in the minds of jws and anyone that leaves.

  in the real world, there is no such thing as "we are all imperfect".

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  Sea Breeze

  The “We’re all imperfect “ defense is just a way to try and deflect responsibility for one’s actions.

  Yep. It is also a thought stopping cliché designed to terminate a discussion. It never worked on me as a kid. It always irritated me and made me dig deeper to see what was so important that was trying to be hidden.
  
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  Jane Doh Does an Excellent Rebuttal to 6 Screens of WT

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  2. scandals

  i thought this needed it's own thread.

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  https://youtu.be/d5hmwbiyjwc.

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  Sea Breeze

  I have some reservations around 12 steps only because some will shun people who relapse and there's an element of policing others.

  I have never heard of shunning existing in 12 step programs. Participants do occasionally get accountability partners on a voluntary basis. But, it the opposite of shunning. It's all about getting real and shining light on the issue and getting things out of the darkness and secrecy. Dysfunction happens in secrecy. Healing happens in community.
  
  

  I found it very interesting how you describe JW parents as 'shut down' because they're emergency minded...so so true.

  I also call this a "bunker" mentality; or sometimes a "siege" mentality. Little kids who grow up like this are imprinted and can easily live the rest of their lives in a state of emergency unless they work to embrace a different reality.
  
  People who joined the JWs past the age of 8 to 12 are different. They have something psychologically to go back to once they leave. Us born-ins have to fight our way out of the paper bag veneer that we got saddled with.
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  Did You Miss Playing Sports?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how many of you missed playing sports in school?

  the wt was merely trying to keep us from committing suicide.... how loving.take a look at this fear mongering :problems with sports today - g91 8/22 p. 5. .

  "people used to argue that sports were of value because they built character.... such arguments sound hollow, even hypocritical.. .

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  Sea Breeze

  You give up...your youth, and when you get older and start asking questions, you lose your jw friends and family too.

  Yes, I found that there was almost nothing salvageable from my JW past.
  
  The WT is the grift that keeps on grifting.
  
  
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  Did You Miss Playing Sports?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how many of you missed playing sports in school?

  the wt was merely trying to keep us from committing suicide.... how loving.take a look at this fear mongering :problems with sports today - g91 8/22 p. 5. .

  "people used to argue that sports were of value because they built character.... such arguments sound hollow, even hypocritical.. .

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  Sea Breeze

  How many of you missed playing sports in school? I know I did. The WT was merely trying to keep us from committing suicide.... how loving.
  
  Take a look at this fear mongering :
  
  Problems With Sports Today - g91 8/22 p. 5

  
  

  "PEOPLE used to argue that sports were of value because they built character.... such arguments sound hollow, even hypocritical.

  
  

  The emphasis on winning is particularly a problem. Seventeen magazine calls this “a darker side of sports.” Why? Because, to quote the magazine, “winning overrides concerns about honesty, schoolwork, health, happiness, and most other important aspects of life. Winning becomes everything.”

  
  

  ...Kathy Ormsby, a U.S. collegiate track star... illustrate(s) the sad consequences of overemphasis on athletic achievement.... a few weeks after setting a national collegiate women’s record in the 10,000-meter footrace, Kathy veered off the track...ran to a nearby bridge, and jumped off in an attempted suicide. She survived, but she was paralyzed from the waist down."
  
  What Watchtower fails to tell the reader is that Kathy had three panic attacks in previous races and that "athletic achievement" did not cause her to jump off the bridge. She later claimed to have mental and emotional issues.
  
  “People say I did it because I wasn’t winning the race. I won very few races. That wasn’t it. It’s like I was out of control.”
  
  Thanks Watchtower for lying to our parents and ruining our childhoods.